Tuesday, March 3, 2015

All Boys, All Blogged: March 3, 2015

Focus: What's unfamiliar in the world of F451 so far, and what's familiar?

1. Warming up with a few interesting symbols

a. What's a hearth?
b. What's a salamander?
c. What's significant about 451 degrees?
d. What's a phoenix?
e. How many references to fire can you find in the first 28 pages?

Try this out on the blog: Fire in F451 symbolizes __________ but also _______________.

2. Enjoying our first fishbowl discussion on F451

3. Wrapping up: What worked? What didn't work? Suggestions?

HW:
1. For Thursday, please read through page 40 in F451 and complete one side of your observation chart. Make sure you're bringing these each day of the week for random check-ins.

2. Start prepping for your banned book persuasive speech (esp. if that means finishing your book).

3. Just a heads up: You will be taking a short break from www.noredink.com to understand Bradbury's challenging vocabulary! 

156 comments:

  1. Fire in F451 symbolizes law but also evil.

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  2. Fire in F451 symbolizes life and all the good things in life but also the past and how everything has changed.

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  3. Fire in F451 symbolizes death but also rebirth

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  4. Fire in Fahrenheit 451 symbolizes power but also containment.

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  5. Fire in F451 symbolizes how fire is very violent and destructive but also how it can create a new life.

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  6. fire in f451 symbolizes purity but can also symbolize destruction

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  7. Fire in F451 symbolizes the past but it also symbolizes the future.

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  8. Fire in F451 symbolizes a world deceived and an era of destruction and confusion.

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  9. Fire in F451 symbolizes destruction but also the loss of knowledge.

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  10. Fire is F451 symbolizes law but also defiance

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  11. Fire in Fahrenheit 451 symbolizes the destruction/ending of something but also it can symbolize the cleansing or renewal/rebirth of something. That something might be a society or civilization/government.

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  12. Fire in F451 symbolizes destruction because of firemen who burn and destroy for pleasure, but it also represents the flickering of self-awareness and knowledge much like a candle-light or lighter.

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  13. Fire in Fahrenheit 451 symbolizes destruction to be reborn.

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  14. Fire in F451 symbolizes a ruined society but also symbolizes a rebirth.

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  15. Fire in F451 symbolizes virtue but also destruction.

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  16. Fire in Fahrenheit 451 symbolizes destruction but also beauty.

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  17. Fire in Fahrenheit 451 symbolizes destruction but also order.

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  18. Fire in F451 symbolizes power but also creativity

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  19. Fire in F451 symbolizes a monster that also can't be contained

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  20. Fire in F451 symbolizes a lack of freedom, and total control of some higher law, but also shows us the destruction and loss of knowledge from the past.

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  21. Fire in Fahrenheit 451 symbolizes pain but also happiness.

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  22. Fire in F451 symbolizes destruction of the past but also how it can be a profession.

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  23. Fire in F451 symbolizes the need to be destructive in order to rebuild.

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  24. Fire in F451 symbolizes death but also how the past can't be changed.

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  25. Fire in F451 symbolizes destruction of physical things and of knowledge, but also symbolizes a sense of security

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  26. Fire in Fahrenheit 451 symbolizes destruction but also a new life.

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  27. Fire in F451 represents destruction and evil, but also symbolizes comfort and good.

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  28. Fire in F451 symbolizes death but also rebirth

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  29. Lets start out with a question today; What is the setting in this book?

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  30. Based off the quote "He wore his happiness like a mask and there was no way of going to knock on her door and ask for it back," do you think that he is already in love with this girl based off the impact she already has on him?

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    1. I don't know if he loves her yet. He doesn't really know what he feels, but he is definitely interested in her differences.

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  31. "If they give you ruled paper, write the other way." What do you think this comment means?

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  32. When Clarisse said, "I'm seventeen and I'm crazy." why does she think this way? Why did her uncle tell her this?

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    1. I think this is just saying how she is a teenage girl and there is no such thing as a normal teenage girl?

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    2. I think she has just developed this idea because of all the criticism and insults she has maybe received in her past, based off what she said about nobody ever talking to her back.

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  33. Who/ What could Clarisse McClellan symbolize in this story or in Guy Montag's life?

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    1. Clarisse reminds Guy of himself, she is a crazy young girl looking for life.

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  34. What do you think the girl represents. Rebirth?

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    1. The Author made her seem like a ghost but I think Clarisse is the fireman's conscious trying to give him happiness.

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  35. How is Clarisse like a candle?

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    1. She showed up in the night and provided a light in Montag's life and gave him vision in the dark, just as a candle would.

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    2. Personally, I think Clarisse represents a light that is different to Guy. This light is almost happy and not always dark. She brings something else that he has not seen before.

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    4. Clarisse is flickering of self-awareness and knowledge.

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    5. She is a different kind of person and she is going to help Montag and this will spark his life which will make him think more about his life and where he is going.

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  36. Why does Clarisse McClellan ask all these unorthodox questions?

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    1. Why are you asking this unorthodox question?

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    1. It was electronic bees that were in Mildreds ears. I think it represents equality in the future and her handicap.

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  38. I like how they added the part about how the fireman denied that fireman used to put out fires not make them.

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    1. Do you think that he knew that they used to be the people who put out fires not start them?

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  39. On page 3, why is the hose referred to as "this great python spitting its venomous kerosene upon the world" Why is it a venomous thing?

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    1. I think its this dark venomous thing because it is destroying history and books.

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    2. Yes, like Will said, it is poison for the books because it is destroying it all.

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  40. She showed Montag a light that he had never really thought of. He is also coming out of the dark.

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  41. "You make me feel old and like a father" Why did they put this teen girl in the story that lives next to Montag, is it for Montag to feel like a father?

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  42. Page 9, Clarisse explains, "Oh just my mother and father and ucle sitting around, talking. It's like being a pedestrian, only rarer..." How do families and people not talk to each other without going insane?

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  43. Where is Clarisse from and why does she know so much about times before they started burning books.

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    1. Her family must have told her all of these things because her family chose to defy the government and not follow their rules. They still talk, walk, and read, so they know about history.

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  45. She asked him this because she is trying to show him what is going on in his life.

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  46. Why are there so many wacky laws? What is the significance of limited social activities, and why do these things matter so much to whoever made these laws?

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    1. I think it is to out order in society. The creator of these laws is probably trying to make sure no one does anything that the government can't control.

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  47. How pivotal of a character will Clarice be?

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    1. I believe that Clarice will be the person that pushes Montag to question authority.

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  48. What will the relationship between Montag and Clarise be like later in the book?

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    1. I think they are going to date, and then get married. But then I think they both will die together in a fire.

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  49. Is Mildred's memory loss a product/idea of the government to ensure that all citizens are happy?

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  50. Do you think Montag really is happy with what he does?

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    1. I think he is right now but I think that Clarisse will help him find that there is more to life than burning books.

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    2. No, because now that he is thinking about happiness, I think he realizes that he does not enjoy his life.

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  51. What makes Clarisse so interested in books. How does she know so much.

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  52. On page 10, the book says, "....something lay hidden behind the grille. He moved his eyes quickly away." What do you think is behind the grille? Is Montag the only one who knows about it? Is it a book?

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  53. On page 17, why does the government not give sport teams names or colors?

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    1. I think they did this because the government didn't want there to be a better team. They all look the same and since they don't have names or colors, it doesn't allow the crowd to cheer for one team; therefore, it doesn't matter who wins.

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    2. The government is trying to keep everyone equal and nobody can be different from eachother

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  54. On page 15 the operator says,"Got so many, starting a few years ago, we had the special machines built.....You don't need an M.D., case like this;...". In this scene Montag is strongly concerned about the fact that no M.D.'s came to the rescue, and instead a machine. Is Montag starting to realize the corruption in society?

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  55. "They needed the fireman to stop the flames" Why did Bradbury put this in relation between creating flames instead of destroying flames. Why did Bradbury choose this symbolic choice?

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    1. I think it just shows how different their worl is from when it once was.

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  56. "How oddly you say that" says Montag when Clarise says that hes a fireman. Why do you think she says this in an odd manner? Do you think she likes or dislikes firemen?

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    1. I think she expected different from Guy. She sees him different than all the others, but expected a different type of employment as well.

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  57. I think Clarisse will only spark Montags thoughts and lead him to wanting more in life.

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  58. Why is Clarisse messing with the fireman in the first place?

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    1. I think that she wants to find out about their job and why they do what they do.

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  59. "Salamander on his arm"- 6, it seems that he has made a huge commitment to his line of work, how will this affect him later in the story?

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  60. What is the symbolic choice of having a mechanical dog instead of a normal hound dog? What does this show about technology in this book?

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    1. I think it just shows the setting and how the book is in the future.

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    2. I think that it shows the takeover of technology, and the censorship that is placed upon the people.

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    3. I think it just shows the setting and how the book is in the future.

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  61. Why does the government not allow things that were allowed in the past?

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    1. i think they want to be in total control of all the people. They do not want them to know about the past so they can not learn what to do if anything happens in the future.

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  62. Do you think Clarisse would read books if they weren't illegal?

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    1. Clarisse does not seem to obey laws, or listen to they rules set down by the government. She may already read books, but just did not tell Montag, knowing that he was a fireman.

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  63. Why does Clarisse claim that she is "Crazy"? Why has she not gotten in more trouble for being a pedestrian, and breaking other laws which is illegal?

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    1. I also wonder how she has not gotten in more trouble because she is blatantly defying the rules, and she does not try to hide it.

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  64. Could Montag walking out into the rain on pg. 21 symbolize anything in Montag's life?

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    1. Maybe how dark it has been

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    2. I think this shows how Montag is in a storm right now in his life and he isn't sure what to do next.

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    3. It could symbolize washing away his old and dark life, creating a new better one.

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  65. On page 12 Bradbury says, "He wore his happiness like a mask and the girl had run off across the lawn with the mask" Do you think Guy was ever really happy?

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    1. I think that he was happy, but he isn't now because he sees something that he didn't see before.

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    2. I think that he thought he was happy, but now realizes that there was never anything to be happy about.

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  66. Does the scene with the dandelion mean that he does not love being a fireman, or that he does not love Mildred, or both?

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  67. What happened before the book that made everyone forget about previous truths such as houses not being fireproof or firemen fighting fires not just starting them.

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  68. Is Mildred's memory loss a product/idea of the government to ensure that all citizens are happy?

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    1. Yes, the government believes that people will be happy if they can't remember the bad in life.

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  69. Was Mildred actually trying to commit suicide or was it truly an accident like the one Montag described?

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    1. I think maybe they want to make them think it was an accident but she could have been trying to do it.

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  70. I think that Ray Bradbury chose to have a mechanical dog to show how far advanced this society is compared to his time.

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  71. Why is Guy always smiling? What does this symbolize?

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  72. Why has change occurred so much and why aren't they aloud to go back to the way things were?

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    1. It seems like most people don't know what happened in the past or what life was like before it was like current living.

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  73. What was Mildred really trying to do? Commit suicide or was it an accident?

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  74. Do you think the blood has something to do with the way the people think?

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  75. "How are you supposed to root for the home tam when you don't even have a program or know the names?" pg 17 Book burning is more important than sports and other activities.

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  76. When Montag says, "It was a special pleasure to see things eaten, to see things blackened and changed." I know it is mesmerizing to watch fire but, why is it so pleasurable to see valued things be destroyed?

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  77. "Don't know why I should be so hungry" why would Mildred ask why she is hungry like she has no clue what happened the other night. She either doesn't know because she was totally knocked out or she is hiding that she overdosed.

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  78. Why has technology become so selective? People are not allowed to have candles, yet large TV's are common? Why is this?

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    1. I think it might be because the candle has to do with fire and maybe fire is only allowed for firemen. They can have TV's because it doesn't use fire. It is a way of fireproofing the houses.

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  79. What do eyes represent in this story?

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  80. On page 10 Clarisse ask Guy "are you happy"? Why does she ask this?

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    1. It symbolizes something in the story. This is very important.

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  81. Do you think fire represents good or bad in this book? Or both?

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    1. I think it represents bad because anyone who has books is breaking the law so they are bad, while they are burning books which is also bad.

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    2. Fire is the destruction of knowledge in this book.

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  82. Do you think Clarrise will ever get her "blood pumped" becasuse she is too curious?

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    1. I think that it is a big possibility, it seems like she would be a threat to the government.

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  83. If books are being burned then where is all of the knowledge they had within them?

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    1. I think they are not learning anything and they are just getting information that the government wants them to know and that is all they can get.

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  84. How does the society Montag lives in compare to society we live in today?

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    1. Society in the book is controlled by a totalitarian government that controls what people think. Where as today we have many freedoms and we have the ability to think and educate ourselves.

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    2. Their society is much darker. They really have no reason to be happy because censorship plays such a big role in their society.

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    3. I think this book was wrote to be a warning to our society not to turn into theirs but we have become more and more similar.

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  85. "Montag was cut in half, he felt his chest chopped down and split apart" Why Bradbury chose these strong visuals and descriptions for Monatg's feelings. Why is it such a gruesome description.

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    1. This is just how the author feels like best describes this event.

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    2. It gives us a visual how bad this story is

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  86. Do people ignore their real thoughts and just tell themself that they are ok when they actually aren't?

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    1. Yes, they do this to show that they are okay but inside they are really hurting.

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  87. Why is Clarisse different from the other people?

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  88. What do you think that Ray Bradbury is trying to say about oppressive society, when this book was written, it was right after the Holocaust where millions of people were slaughtered because of their race. What is Bradbury saying about human nature and the course we are taking?

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  89. Do you think that Guy and Clarrise will try the dandelion for love again later in the book? If so, what do you think the outcome will be?

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  90. What do the fireproof houses symbolize?

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  91. Do you think that Mildred had her memory erased? After the medical men left the house, she had no memory of when she tried to kill herself. She denies all of Montag's claims and panic. Do you think that this could be to keep everyone sane and unaware of their unhappiness?

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  92. Is Montag a possible hero in this story?

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  93. On page 10 Clarise asks Montag "are you happy?" Do you think that Clarise has the ability to sense that he isnt happy at all or even to effect events in Montags life?

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  94. If history books are being burned what will happen if another Hitler came to power and the people didn't know that this happened before and history repeats itself?

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  95. How do people learn anything without books?

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  96. To answer Kyle's question I think the eye show how the government is constantly watching and monitoring the people.

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  97. What do you think will happen between Montag and Clarisse in the future? Do you think that they will fall in love?

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  98. on page 9, "He hand't looked in a long time" (talking about the how Montag hasn't looked up at the moon in a long time) Why don't you think he has looked at the moon? what could this possibly symbolize?

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  99. Fire in Fahrenheit 451 symbolizes destruction but also control.

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